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Postby ghost » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:02 am

K in a way this could be called a new golden age. Young folks of all races decided to vote for O. They want a new and better life. I am very happy cuz I was worried the young folks just gave up and went for temporary material stuff.
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Re: new golden age

Postby nomoney » Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:43 pm

There is a reason why there is age limits in all parts of life. Can't drive till age 16, no drinking till age 21, insurance rates go down at age 25, cannot run for president till age 35. Why do we have these limits? Becasue the young are (I would like to say dumb) but I will say unknowledgeable and wreckless.

The young do not know anything. We always thought we did, but as we get older, we learn we knew nothing.

And from everyting i have heard, the young did not show up in greater numbers than they did in '04.
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Re: new golden age

Postby Numenor » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:19 pm

Google is your friend then

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27525497/

Looks like young white voters were key in deciding the election. That and the strong minority vote.
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Re: new golden age

Postby Kage72 » Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:32 am

Or, it could be the worst mistake ever made. Only time will tell at this point. Just understand, from many of our perspective, we just nominated a guy with no experience at a critical time. Sounds like a pretty huge gamble to many of us. At least with McCain, I didn't doubt his love for the country once. A war hero that served his country for many years. Obama... we'll i guess people have their own little fantasies.

I'm not racist in the slightest. I grew up on Hip-Hop and R&B, lol. I breakdanced when i was a child and wore baggy clothes during the phase. :P But, I just could not for the life of me see the enthusiasm about this guy, lol. Shoot, I coulda gotten behind a "Chris Rock for president" campaign as much as him, lol. Just came across as uptight and fake to me. I don't know.

Now, I don't think McCain is unflawed man. I think the whole divorce of 1st wife and now has real yound new wife is a lil iffy. But, the more I know about his new wife, she's a real humanitarian. She travels the world helping people and even brought home those babies from mother Teresa. So, I am not even sure about how I feel about the man himself. But, i know he gave his life for his country. Even denying early release as a POW when politcal influence was used. He said he would go home the same as any other soldier. He didn't wan't preferential treatment because daddy was high ranking military.

Obama, Hmm. Like i said above, he just seems a lil uptright to me. It's probably the flat frown he has. But, a good talker and seems like a nice guy when he gets smiling. His life kinda confuses me. Grew up in Hawaii. Never really was poor himself. Was a community organizer.. kind of like Acorn :P He wrote a few books that nobody has ever heard of and became a millionaire? Couple years in Senate. That's about it.

But, it's over now. All we can do is hope for the best and know were not to blame if anything goes wrong, lol. :)
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Re: new golden age

Postby Thundergod » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:44 am

47 years of age is not inexperienced.

I know his daughters are still young but I'm only one year older and have a son 27 and a daughter 24.

A lot of the long term players here consider me to be wise.
If that's the case then don't judge him on his age because McCain's age makes Obama look young.

I'd rather the younger man looking forward than an older one that is at an age where his contemporaries are sitting on porches reminiscing about the old days.
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Re: new golden age

Postby ghost » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:30 pm

I always watch for your comments TG.
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Re: new golden age

Postby Nicc » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:31 pm

I'd rather the younger man looking forward than an older one that is at an age where his contemporaries are sitting on porches reminiscing about the old days.


It's not his age that gives cause for concern. Although age is not a barometer for wisdom. These days many people skate by for decades just by stroking the boss' ego. Obama has not had the experience to develop a solid understanding of the world. He looks at the problems of the U.S. and of the world and thinks they can be solved by sitting down and talking things out. It's a socialist view. If we could come together as a community to solve the problems, we wouldn't need leaders. Think about that the next time your boss goes on vacation and leaves his son or idiot drinkin' buddy in charge of your shop.

I was listening to Alan Colmes(liberal talk sho host) last Friday. His guest was Andy Card(former White House Chief of Staff). Card explained that a president(or any leader) needs to distance himself from his friends in order to make the hard decisions. A good leader will make the tough choices that might alienate his friends and allies. Obama doesn't have this experience. His experience is from trying to bring people together. Trying to get them to like him so they'll donate to his cause. The question is: will Obama find the resolve to do what's best for the country even when it means pissing off those who got him elected? Or will he fold, and pander to the multiple factions of the democratic party at the risk of destroying the U.S. ?
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Re: new golden age

Postby Numenor » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:35 pm

Very good argument Nicc.

Anyway, Obama voted against the Iraq War. He definetly has the ability to make unpopular decisions that are best for the country.
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Re: new golden age

Postby ghost » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:23 pm

nomoney wrote:There is a reason why there is age limits in all parts of life. Can't drive till age 16, no drinking till age 21, insurance rates go down at age 25, cannot run for president till age 35. Why do we have these limits? Becasue the young are (I would like to say dumb) but I will say unknowledgeable and wreckless.

The young do not know anything. We always thought we did, but as we get older, we learn we knew nothing.

And from everyting i have heard, the young did not show up in greater numbers than they did in '04.

Maybe as you got older you knew you knew nothing, do you know anything now?
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Re: new golden age

Postby SilentRain » Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:22 am

I don't think golden age is coming any time soon. I think O B made president for many reasons, but to say he'll bring about a golden age is far-fetched.

To many people that criticizes O B for being inexperienced, you are right. I don't think Obama will make a good president and make life better for all of us. However, between Obama and McCain, I'd still support Obama.

Bush administration's policies for the past 8 years leave us with a financial crisis, 2 costly wars against small flies, and $10 trillion national debt. I've criticized Bush administration since 9/11 and I certainly will not back McCain who will do no different. McCain may talk about cutting cost, cutting tax, and criticize Obama as a tax-raiser, but I don't see how he can handle the $10 trillion national debt while fighting 2 wars and not raise tax, not to mention US unemployment rate is about to hit record high. We are in a dire situation and the next 4 years will be pain be it Obama or McCain.

What Obama does have over McCain is the understanding that we are all Americans, black and white, rich and poor, Christian and Muslim, and other minority groups. Obama is willing to listen to every group whereas McCain emphasize his values which only align with the values of a certain group. I object to the so-called American values. Above America, we are United States. For anyone to suggest that the values of 300 million free individuals to be the same is absurd; if they are all the same, they aren't free, and if they are free, their values will conflict. The right thing to do is to work together with everyone to arrive at a solution everyone can accept, not deciding by yourself what's right and what's wrong and proceed accordingly.

What I do believe, is that he can change America's image. The American government will no longer represents only the interests and values of a certain group. The American society today is far from the American dream; I find it difficult to believe that xenophobia and anti-intellectualism is so widespread in the land of the free, yet my experience and stories of many others force me to accept it. And hopefully, by having a well-educated 2nd generation non-white immigrant as the president, the perceptions of America will change.

And to all the people that calls Obama black, you either know what you are doing misleading everyone else, or you don't know what you are talking about at all. The man's an Ivy-league lawyer raised in a white family in a white neighborhood, he's as white as a white man can be. The majority of white men (and women) I've known don't amounts to half the whiteness this man is, yet everyone's calling him black? Now that's a good joke.
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Re: new golden age

Postby ghost » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:23 pm

In this country there is a one drop rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule
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Re: new golden age

Postby Thundergod » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:25 am

Read that article closely ghost.

"the one-drop rule being held illegal (ever since the U.S. Supreme Court in 1967 overturned the Racial Integrity Act of 1924)"
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Re: new golden age

Postby Kage72 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:00 pm

Thundergod wrote:47 years of age is not inexperienced.

I know his daughters are still young but I'm only one year older and have a son 27 and a daughter 24.

A lot of the long term players here consider me to be wise.
If that's the case then don't judge him on his age because McCain's age makes Obama look young.

I'd rather the younger man looking forward than an older one that is at an age where his contemporaries are sitting on porches reminiscing about the old days.


No, a 2 year career in politics is inexperienced. All he has done is Sit in the house and not vote on most issues. If he couldn't make decisions there, why are we supposed to think he is ready to make bigger decisions?

I just trust somebody has has actually PROVEN his love for his country. Somebody that has sacrificed and bled for it. Not some nobody that has more questionable associations than any other candidate i can remember.
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Re: new golden age

Postby nomoney » Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:12 pm

Someone who has been shot out of the sky and held captive, hung from ropes by his two broken arms and beaten senseless, for his country!
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Re: new golden age

Postby ghost » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:16 am

Thundergod wrote:Read that article closely ghost.

"the one-drop rule being held illegal (ever since the U.S. Supreme Court in 1967 overturned the Racial Integrity Act of 1924)"

True but check out racial crimes committed in this country since the election cuz that ruling is being ignored. And a black man scares some white people.
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